Sunday, June 05, 2005

Testing Moral Equivalence

In a comment to a June 4 post, Perspective on Desecration, a reader who calls himself profmarcus left a comment which said, in full,

just as a thought problem, every time you see "koran," replace it with "bible..." every time you see "muslim," replace it with "christian..."

The post profmarcus commented on pointed out that Muslims make a habit of desecrating their own holy book and the Bible, in addition to murdering large numbers of innocent people. It concluded,

I don't think there's any moral equivalence between the desecration of a very few holy books by Americans and the wholesale desecration of holy books (including the Qur'an and the Bible) by Muslims. The former is atypical and unacceptable behavior in the civilized world, and the latter is routine and widely approved in the Muslim world. I wonder why the media can't bring themselves to put it in perspective?

Based on the comment quoted above plus other things he's written, profmarcus seems to be a liberal of the sort who believes everything is morally equivalent to everything else. No idea or person is superior to another, and none is inferior. No culture is advanced, while another is primitive. There is no good or evil. Everything just is. This kind of mayonnaise-level thinking also carries with it the implication that if you disagree, then you're obviously cursed with an inferior intellect, and never mind the logical inconsistency.

Nevertheless, just to be fair I thought I would put profmarcus to the test. I'll think about a few things and switch the words "Qur'an" and "Bible" and the words "Muslim" and "Christian." Here goes:

The videotape widely broadcast on a Christian cable network showed a young Muslim man screaming in unspeakable pain and horror as masked Christians, brandishing assault rifles and holding Bibles, sawed his head off with a knife. Commentators, clergymen, and school teachers throughout the Christian world rejoiced and praised the crusaders, and large crowds of Christians took to the streets chanting "death to the Great Satan" and "death to the unbelievers." Hmm. OK, I'll try one more.

The huge jetliner streaked low over the city through the clear morning sky, startling Muslims on the streets below. Five young Christian men barricaded inside the cockpit stared ahead at the giant building looming before them, clutching their Bibles to their chests and singing "Onward, Christian Soldiers." Bare minutes behind them, more young Christian men in another cockpit willed their giant craft into the twin building beside the one already smoking, waving their Bibles over their heads and chanting the Paternoster as they relished the thought of the evil Muslim non-believers they would soon kill. Meanwhile, another jetliner was headed toward a crash in a rural area, the Christian crusaders in the cockpit about to be overcome by heroic Muslim men who would refuse to die without a fight. And finally, the last contingent of Christian men, emboldened by the perfect truths in their Bibles, flew their jet into a military building serving as the headquarters of the Muslim armies, killing many unsuspecting soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and civilians.

There was rejoicing in the Christian world over this ultimate deed of sacrifice by the brave Christians who brought justice to the unbelieving Muslims in the heart of the Great Satan. There were also a few pro-forma condemnations by a few Christian leaders, but everyone in the Christian world knew they didn't mean it. And the brave Christian crusaders that day reposed in heaven, blessed of God, each serviced by 72 virgins for eternity.

Look, profmarcus, I tried. It just doesn't seem to work. I guess they only thing left is to conclude that your idea of substituting "Christian" and "Muslim" on an equal basis, like your extremist political philosophy, sucks.


Blogger John Walter said...

Ow! Tom! That's tough!

And I agree completely.

7:01 PM, June 05, 2005  
Blogger John Walter said...

Well, not quite completely. Profmarcus did pose a question worth considering. It just wasn't worth considering very much.

7:59 PM, June 05, 2005  
Blogger Jamie Dawn said...

Thanks for your perspective and thoughtful post. The Koran story is being blown out of proportion and it will continue to be just as Abu Graib was.

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9:37 PM, June 05, 2005  
Blogger MaxedOutMama said...

Tom, what we are seeing in the politically-correct press is really an absence of thought rather than a brand of thought.

Nice job - but it will not be heard.

9:46 PM, June 05, 2005  
Blogger Junebugg said...

Sometimes you can be a little to PC. You hit the nail on the head with this one. But we seem to be the whipping-boy of the world for the moment. Nothing we do will be right.

I say let them kill each other, hold our heads up high, and take no prisioners when the shit hits the fan.

2:49 AM, June 06, 2005  
Blogger schuey said...

oh my god...

Did some of you guys heard about a nice little event called "inquisition" ? I took place about 600 years ago and let me tell you something it was quite nasty...

Oh and another fact, do you know that Christiannity is 600 years older then the Muslim religion ? Isn't that a funny coincidence...

I'm a german catholic, but it does not mean that I must be a stupid blind hater...

Read some books, it might enlighten your perspective and sooth your souls...

4:51 AM, June 06, 2005  
Blogger Tom Carter said...

schuey, I'm pretty familiar with the Inquisition, the Crusades, and various other misdeeds committed in the name of Christianity. However, that was then, and this is now.

Tomás de Torquemada didn't saw off the head of Nick Berg, my fellow citizen; Richard I Lionheart and his followers on the Third Crusade didn't murder thousands of my fellow citizens in a cowardly sneak attack on 911; and Pope Alexander VI (his name was Rodrigo Borgia, in case you haven't read that particular book yet) isn't plotting to kill even more of my fellow countrymen if he can get away with it.

Today, the greatest threat to my country and civilized people around the world is extremist Islam and the millions who support it, actively or passively. As one who lives in France, you of all people should understand that.

8:55 AM, June 06, 2005  
Blogger profmarcus said...

yep, that's exactly what i thought... thanks for the validation...

8:34 PM, June 06, 2005  
Blogger Anastasia said...

I tend to agree more. Christian nations in the 'today' don't declare Jihad or any holy war of any kind. A Muslim of today has no right to declare Jihad and terrorists are declaring 'Jihad' all the time and by so doing they are proclaiming they are prophets, which - takin the Christian comparison - can be equivalent to blasphemy.

So there are two different frameworks, they aren't both the same and no, in the case of terrorists that strap bombs to themselves, who kill innocent civilians in busy streets (how many Christians are doing this? answer: none), the terms (in relation to what is happening today, in the here and how) can't be interchanged like they're the same thing.

4:20 AM, July 07, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus? - Did He Really Die on the Cross? (Evidence says, NO!.)
Bible - Is It the Word of God? (Experts say, NO!.)
Trinity- Did Jesus or anyone teach this? (Bible says, NO!.)
"Only Begotten Son of God"? Was this Jesus? (Bible, says - NO!).
Are children born in original sin? (Bible says, "Yes!" - but Jesus says, "NO!")

All this & more - internets site to compare İslam & Christianity:

10:31 AM, December 25, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is not the truth!!! Did Jesus died on the cross? no no no

he was sent to God and will come again and to defeat the non muslims and the satan

Everr Being Muslim is proud of being Muslim. Islam will rise again to defeat satan.

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