Wednesday, June 08, 2005

The Pizza Man

According to a report from Tampa, Florida:

A robbery attempt by a masked man and a gunshot wound to the leg didn't stop a pizza delivery man from making his rounds, pies in hand.

Thomas Stefanelli, 37, said dedication to his job at Hungry Howie's Pizza kept him on the job after a struggle with a robber Saturday night left him bleeding from a bullet wound in his left thigh.

Now that he has a Purple Heart from Hungry Howie, this guy should apply for a job with the U.S. Postal Service. They could use a few like him, even though they might have to waive the IQ test.

10 Comments:

Blogger sygamel said...

Thought-provoker Tom -- should delivery people be granted licenses to carry firearms due to their sometimes dangerous jobs?

7:05 PM, June 08, 2005  
Blogger Tom Carter said...

Hell, why not? Everybody else seems to be packin' heat these days!

7:42 PM, June 08, 2005  
Blogger The GTLā„¢ said...

Y'all... this AIN'T about the guns. The problem is rooted much deeper than that.

10:24 PM, June 08, 2005  
Blogger sygamel said...

Hmmm g-t liberal, so a would-be robber is just as likely to rob a delivery person, and this particular person who's life is now changed, if it's well-known delivery people have LTC rights? Or is it the "foundation of society" that should be blamed, a foundation that creates criminals?

The reason I brought up this issue is I know Tom backs gun control with certain exceptions, and wanted to find out if this type of situation contituted an exception.

10:45 PM, June 08, 2005  
Blogger sygamel said...

Anyway, my stance is delivery people should have full LTC rights.

9:10 AM, June 09, 2005  
Blogger Amal said...

Wow, and I thought I was nuts. This guy just kept going? Was he bloody insane? Also, what is your opinion on Gun Control? I looked but did not find it...

11:35 PM, June 09, 2005  
Blogger Tom Carter said...

Jeez, all we need is for every yahoo to be totin' a piece. Then I guess the pizza man and the robbers could have a gunfight, and the winner could deliver the pizza. Insanity.

12:19 PM, June 13, 2005  
Blogger sygamel said...

The criminal would find someone else to prey on, Tom, why would he take the risk? -- LTC rights = deterrent.

4:08 PM, June 13, 2005  
Blogger Tom Carter said...

Scott, in advocating that almost anyone be permitted to carry a weapon, meaning a handgun, you make dangerously false assumptions. You assume that everyone is a steely-eyed, physically-fit, weapons-trained shooter with the judgment, skill, and nerve to employ his weapon at the right time and place and accurately against the right target. Where the average citizen is concerned, most if not all of those assumptions are wrong. That means that handguns will be used in ways that aren't useful for defense and that innocent people will be wounded or killed. That alone is justification for severe restrictions on handgun possession, without even mentioning the need to drastically reduce the number of handguns floating around in our society.

1:15 PM, June 14, 2005  
Blogger sygamel said...

"Scott, in advocating that almost anyone be permitted to carry a weapon, meaning a handgun, you make dangerously false assumptions."

In this case, not anyone, but delivery people. And the verb is permitted, yes, not required.

"You assume that everyone is a steely-eyed, physically-fit, weapons-trained shooter with the judgment, skill, and nerve to employ his weapon at the right time and place and accurately against the right target."

Again, permitted, not required. Those who are granted LTC rights should need to pass extensive training that enables the above.

"Where the average citizen is concerned, most if not all of those assumptions are wrong. That means that handguns will be used in ways that aren't useful for defense and that innocent people will be wounded or killed."

Again, extensive training only. The point of LTC rights for delivery people isn't even so that delivery people will run out and haphazardly get a gun -- it's to warn criminals who would prey on an individual who moves around openly obviously carrying lots of money that such a person is more likely than the average citizen to carry a gun. The criminal will then look elsewhere for someone to rob.

"That alone is justification for severe restrictions on handgun possession"

I disagree -- in fact I believe that alone is justification for extensive and complete training of handgun use. No one should even think about purchasing a gun without passing rigorous training, laws that I believe should be in place.

If LTC rights for such people are not the answer, in what ways do you think they should be protected? The people who take these jobs in dangerous neighborhoods do so to help feed their families as a 2nd job or maybe even a 1st, and are obviously not near the top of totem pole. For many, it is probably a choice between such jobs and welfare. In order to give people the incentive to take such jobs, they need to be protected somehow. Is outlawing such jobs outright a possible answer? I am curious to know your solution to this increasing problem for delivery people?

6:18 AM, June 15, 2005  

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